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We had Sirona in lab rap in our lab lest Wednesday. We loved what we heard but not sure if we would make...See more right choice by just going w them or shopping other system. What we like the most is that we would be able to do all staps ourselves from reciving files (just from cerec-ussers since they are closed system according to the rep) scanning conventional impressions /models (but not be able to send files to other labs-outsourcing labs in case there is a need except Infinident) and milling which we now outsource to other lab but we would also have to think about sintering oven which is another investment and as of now we have lots of need for bruxier crowns, Oh and I forgot to mention we are full service so our partial work we outsource as well. Help!!!!
Straumann USA, LLC · Andover, MA
Headed to DLOAC today? Join Dr. Richard Kinsel and Daniele Capoferri, CDT for their lecture at 2 PM...See more "The Dentist-Technician Connection: Managing Implant Complications"
Stop by the Straumann Booth #22 post-presentation to learn about our CARES Prosthetic App, a free App for Dental Wings and 3M Lava Scanner users to connect to Straumannâs centralized milling facility for original Straumann CARES Customized Prosthetics.
How many of you are milling Emax? I know, it is cheaper to print/mill wax & press, but considering moving...See more my rushes and internal remakes to milling, as well use this same option for our modelless requests. I have an Imes 450 that mills Emax beautifully, just a lengthy mill time. Considering bringing back an E4D. — tagged IPS E.max
I understand you taking exception with the over simplification of the outsource issue but to say that...See more it's a "greed-driven business model" is an oversimplification of its own. Domestic dental labs who compete primarily on price are facing a crisis to stay in business. Rather than greed, their very survival depends on their ability to use offshore labs to take advantage of cheap labor. Our medium sized lab has a parade of small lab owners seeking work because they simply can't afford to make a living wage in the current market with their lack of capital & business acumen. There's a simple reality that labs who have made a living making crowns out of their basement for $1 cheaper than the lab down the street are disappearing. Although I feel bad these labs are closing and the challenges of change, I'm not convinced that this shakeout is necessarily a bad thing for our industry.
US labs need to quit whining about the offshore problem and work toward finding ways to compete in ways other than price. Finding ways to improve compliance and material integrity is only part of the solution. Domestic labs will ALWAYS have a competitive advantage in turnaround time and the ability to forge personal, meaningful business relationships with their dentists. Successful labs will find a way to incorporate automation, efficiency, artistry, and other value-added services to their dentists. As long as labs keep acting like vendors to their customers rather than partners in mutual success, the profession will continue to "cheapen."
In my view, the shakeout will continue for a few more years with automation, milling, and monolithic materials leading the way. Labs owners who work 16 hour days for $40,000 year making base-metal pfms for local dentists will continue to disappear. Its time for US labs to step up, take control, and shed the defeatist mentality. The future is bright for those who embrace change and seize new opportunities. — tagged Outsourcing
In October of 2012 we did a seminar titled âIntroduction to Dental Millingâ. Some people that...See more could not make it due to schedule or location asked about the possibility of filming it. So we did film it with amateur home video cameras. This seminar includes Chris Brown from Apex Dental Milling Center speaking on his experience opening a milling center. It also includes Sescoi speaking on open vs closed systems, Imetric speaking on white light scanners and Datron Dynamics on dental milling machines. Click the link for more information.
See Roland Digital Technology in Action at LMT LAB DAY Chicago 2013
If you'll be attending LMT LAB...See more DAY 2013 in Chicago, you won't want to miss Roland's DWX-50 . Stop by booth #905 to see how this advanced, yet user-friendly 5-axis milling machine is taking digital dental technology to the next level. Discover how the DWX-50's innovative features can deliver custom prosthetic production with unprecedented speed, precision and economy.
LMT Lab Day Chicago 2013
Sheraton Chicago Hotel & Towers
Chicago, IL | Booth #905 | Feb. 22-23, 2013
We have learned, as developers of dental CAM software for implants, that there is some confusion about...See more the differences between milling simpler parts like copings or full contours and mimlling bars and implant connections. During LMT Chicago, we have set aside some time for some one on one sessions, that are more informational than sales focused, where we can discuss what some of the CAM differences are, and how you can prepare yourself for them. Simple click the link and fill out the form and we will be in touch to schedule a time. Thanks!
Dear sir ,
Excuse me for my question which may be silly ...but iam Egyptian dentist searching for doing...See more my master degree on custom made abutments ..I need to ask simple questions
1-After I contact some labs in Egypt.. Zirkonzhan & laserdenta told me that they could do it with titanium base ...through my search on internet ,,I found full zirconia without titanium base ...how it is done ..on which system & what it requires ,,
when i discuss this with my professor he said milling could not be 100% accurate to engage fixture !!!
Can i get help in this point & in learning the design of customized abutment Implant as general ..thanks alot — tagged 3 topics
Glenn Kennedy · Business Development Manager, Dental Solutions at Roland DGA
FREE Roland Webinar - Intro to Dental CAD-CAM Workflow, Tuesday, January 22
Roland Dental Solutions...See more - Intro to Dental CAD-CAM Workflow
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:00 AM - 10:00 AM PST
Today, digital dental technologies are helping to transform every aspect of the dental industry. The days of tedious, manual production of crowns, copings and bridges are fast disappearing. The latest technological advancements in scanning, CAD/CAM software and CNC milling allow digital dental labs to deliver custom production with speed and precision.
Join Roland experts for an informative, one-hour webinar on dental computer aided design (CAD) and computer aided manufacturing (CAM) for an in-depth look at the process and what's involved.
- An overview of the dental restoration process
- About the digital dental workflow from where the restoration process begins
- How models become digitized and how they are used with CAD software
- The process of taking you CAD design through you CAM software.
- To prepare your restorations using CAM software for milling on the DWX-50
Registration is required, there is no fee to attend:
If you are heading to DLOAC please plan to join us on Thursday, November 15th for a in-depth training...See more on Dental CAD/CAM technology offered by CIMSystem (SUM3D) and Roland DGA.
Today, digital dental technologies are helping to transform every aspect of the dental industry. The latest technological advancements in scanning, CAD/CAM software and CNC milling allow digital dental labs to deliver custom production with speed, precision and economy. In this training, you will gain key takeaways and skills for the digital age from CIMSystem and Roland experts. By attending this course, you will also receive 4 CDT credits.
What you will learn from this class:
Introduction to the digital dental process
Introduction to CAD/CAM
How to use the CAM system to mill everything from Crowns to Copings to Bridges
How to use the right CAD settings for milling
The right tools and materials for the job
Thursday, November 15, 2012
Roland DGA Headquarters
15363 Barranca Parkway
Irvine, CA 92618
Attendees will receive 4 CDT credits
CIMSystem is a leading CAD/CAM technology provider for the 3D and Dental market with highly regarded software solutions such as SUM3D and Rhinoceros. Since the companyâs establishment in 1999 in Milan, CIMSystem has grown to be a leader in CAD/CAM solutions with a worldwide technical and sales partner network.
About the Instructor
Luigi Fanin is an experienced Mechanical Engineer covering a broad range of engineering fields focused on Computer Aided Design, Reverse Engineering and Computer Aided Manufacturing. Luigi is business development manager and technical trainer for Italian software manufacturer CIMSystem, creators of SUM3D CAM specifically designed software solutions for open Dental milling centers.
Space is limited, please register in advance online:
We are doing an informal Introduction to Dental Milling seminar on October 24. This will be in Schaumberg,...See more IL in the evening and include a complimentary dinner.
Chris Brown from Apex Dental Milling in Ann Arbor will discuss what to look out for and offer tips from experience if interested in getting into dental milling. Datron Dynamics will discuss mills and Sescoi will discuss dental CAM software.
This event is free, but we need you need to register so we have a count for food..
We're selling our MC XL! If anyone is interested please send inquiries to email@example.com. We...See more are asking $32,000 for the milling unit... comes with additional water tank, still has 1 year left on warranty.
Also, selling our unlimited activation key/dongle for $23,000. Will sell together or separately. — tagged 4 products
Lets get this topic started! What is 5 axis and why would you want it?
Simply put, 5 axis milling gives...See more the cutting tool more access to the stock being cut. A five axis machine helps labs save money because you can tilt pieces to allow them to fit into a thinner puck of zirconia. Thinner pucks are cheaper. Another advantage of 5 axis milling is the ability to position the piece to remove material that a 4 axis mill can not reach. For example a bridge that does not have a zero insertion angle.
The Roland DWX-50 was designed as an open system so it can take advantage of the latest CAM software technology. When you use a Roland DWX-50, the CAM software will automatically turn on the 5th axis as needed. If there are no undercuts, then it will run in 4 axis mode which is cheaper. Either way, the operator does not have to worry about any of this. It is automatic! Send me a message if you have any questions or Learn more about the amazing DWX-50 five axis dental mill at:
http://www.rolanddga.com/products/milling/dwx50/ — tagged 5-Axis DWX-50 Milling Machine
It is with great pleasure that CAP announces the release of our CAP FZ | Full Zirconia YouTube video....See more CAP wanted to take an opportunity to share with the dental lab community what we feel to be the best-in-class full contour zirconia currently available. CAPâs video details the CAP FZ | Full Zirconia crown from its beginning to its beautiful end result. President Bob Cohen and CEO Rob Nazzal discuss how the CAP team brought the CAP FZ | Full Zirconia to fruition. We walk you through the scanning, designing, milling and shading process of a CAP FZ crown, showing you just how this incomparably esthetic zirconia is created. — tagged 4 users
Mark Jackson, RDT · Owner at Precision Ceramics Dental Lab
NADL Meets with U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
On May 1st, a contingent of eight representatives...See more from the dental laboratory industry (appointed by NADL) met with fourteen officials and staff from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) at their headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland.
This meeting was the result of interaction that has taken place between the NADL and FDA since January of this year relative to a number of issues in terms of new technology (materials and equipment), process changes in the industry and enforcement.
The FDA brought personnel from different divisions of the agency to the meeting including key staff from the Office of Device Evaluation; Dental Devices Branch;Division of Anesthesiology, General Hospital, Infection Control and Dental Devices; Office of Chief Counsel and Office of Regulatory Affairs and Compliance/Enforcement Division.
Effectively, the FDA is evaluating current aspects of how dental laboratories manufacture dental devices. As the dental laboratory industry evolves in terms of using new materials and equipment, the agencyâs perspective on what elements of federal regulations apply to our constituents is changing.
A number of topics rose to the top in terms of potential FDA action:
The FDA has questions/concerns on what tasks dental laboratories are actually performing related to implant abutments (both the design element and milling). The key concern is what protocols are in place when a dental laboratory can ask an implant manufacturer for an override on built in software thresholds for angulation.
There are a couple of options for FDA to consider. One is to look at whether or not dental laboratories would have to have a pre market 510k approval for conducting such processes or two, provide some specific guidance on how these tasks should be performed. Itâs more likely that a guidance document would be released rather than requiring dental laboratories to seek 510 approval. That would be an expensive proposition for most dental laboratories to undergo and it was mutually agreed that for an industry of our size and make up that this option would be overkill and not necessary.
FDA is reviewing the âbrandedâ products that dental laboratories market to dentists. When a dental laboratory brands a product such as âXYZ Crownâ or âABC nightguardsâ technically, a laboratory should register this product with FDA under its name since by branding it under the laboratoryâs name could be considered that the device is adulterated if the device is manufactured based on a manufacturers 510k market approval.
NADL and FDA held considerable discussion on enforcement both in terms of inspections and un-registered activity or mislabeling. Both parties came to some agreement on the best way for the agency to enforce existing regulations rather than seek additional oversight authority. FDA is interested in exerting its authority on dental laboratories that are not following registration and listing and labeling requirements when they are importing dental restorations.
On another element of enforcement, NADL will be developing some tutorial documents for the FDA so that they can use these resources to assist agency inspectors when they visit dental laboratories so the inspector knows what types of dental devices and processes are present in a laboratory. In many cases, those dental laboratories that have had inspections from FDA in the past, have vastly different experiences. For example, some inspectors go beyond what is required based on a dental laboratory environment, thinking they are a raw material or equipment manufacturer.
In terms of enforcement, NADL stressed that dental offices that have in house laboratories, under the federal regulations are defined in the same manner as a commercial dental laboratory. The fact that a dentist is on site should have no impact, as dental devices are being manufactured in both settings.
NADLâs Board of Directors will be reviewing next steps to best serve its memberâs interests on this important subject. FDA is seeking further input from NADL during the summer so that it can outline an action plan for any future guidance it may deem necessary to publish.
Â© Copyright 2012, National Association of Dental Laboratories, NADL
Dan O'Rourke, CDT · Owner/President at O'Rourke Dental Studio
Could someone please tell me the tolerance that the new MC-XLmilling machine by Sirona is able to achieve...See more in microns. I went to their web page and they say it's great and that the doctor can now make a crown in 4 to 12 minutes, but they don't specify what the tolerances are? Just curious.
Hey folks, fairly uneducated on the whole "milling unit" idea. We have as of late had inquiries as to...See more whether we mill cerec or e4d files. We just purchased a 3shape scanner and are waiting on its arrival. Could anyone give me some insight to what unit would accompany our scanner well? Thanks in advance! — tagged 3Shape, Inc. and Scanners
Headed to Lab Day East? Stop by Tables K1 K2 and K3 for a demonstration on the brand new CARES System...See more 7.0, with a validated workflow for Straumann products and external milling via open STL files for your cases. One system with the benefits of precision and quality for your lab!
http://www.straumann.us/en/home/news-and-events/cares-system-7.html — tagged LAB DAY East 2012
LMT Editors are busy writing our LAB DAY Chicago coverage for the April issue but hereâs a preview...See more of a few new products that made their debut at the show:
The Mondial® 8i-5° posterior tooth line from Heraeus Kulzer is designed for implant and geriatric prosthetics and treatment of TMJ.
Ivoclar Vivadentâs IPS e.max Press Abutment Solutions enables you to fabricate implant-supported hybrid restorations with a titanium base pressed with IPS e.max Press lithium disilicate.
NobelActive 3.0 from Nobel Biocare is a smaller implant solution for areas with limited space.
The Straumann Cares System 7.0 gives users the flexibility of using Straumannâs validated workflow or working with a third-party milling center.
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During his presentation at the Vision 21 meeting last month in Las Vegas, Tais Clausen, 3Shapeâs...See more CTO and Co-Founder, sounded off on chairside milling machines:
âWhen it comes to chairside milling machines, thereâs a lot of fear that dentists will basically do restorations themselves but maybe thereâs too much fear. As much as I think thereâs a market for chairside systems, I donât believe itâs a huge market. I think itâs going to level off at 10-15% of dentists. The majority of doctors donât want to deal with restorations themselves they want collaboration with the technician. The doctorâs job is to take care of the patient, not mess around with milling machines in the office."
Do you agree or disagree? Share your thoughts here and look for highlights of the Vision 21 meeting in the March issue of LMT.
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Steve Jones · Owner at Rainbow Dental
I have a lab in a dental building that service 6 to 8 doctors, recently they have decided to get together...See more and buy the E4D scanning and milling units. they want me to oversee the milling and stain/glaze , but obviously these systems are designed to all but eliminate there lab fees, I think I will be looking for new clients outside the building.
I would like to do the stain/glaze work as I think the Emax material is great but does any one have any experience incorporating in house milling systems, fees , etc.
These system's are marketed very aggressively, at $120,000 the salesmen's commission is good ,the dentist can recover the costs in a couple of years and the systems and material really are quit good and will only get better.
Any information/ideas are welcome, I have to go and re invent myself now.
Mark Jackson, RDT · Owner at Precision Ceramics Dental Lab
We have been experimenting with some new materials in our 5 axis R&D milling machine, and we have found...See more that there are some serious challenges in determining the proper cutting tools, tooling strategy and nesting optimization. I often question if the cost to bring some of these new materials to market are worth the effort without enough marketing support to drive interest and educate the doctors as to the benefits of something they have never heard of. I guess my question is, would your doctors try something completely new, based solely on your recommendation, or do you think it needs some big, name brand backing to get off the ground IN YOUR LAB?
Jing Gao · Overseas Sales Manager at Nationwide Dental Lab
Some of my customers asked us if we can milling the model, which means they will only send ut the STL...See more file to make the dental restorations without sending impressions and models to us? I wondered how that device work only by digital files(intro-oral scan technology).
Glidewell Laboratories · Newport Beach, CA
Today, we made an exciting announcement for dental labs: the launch of the BruxZir Milling System for...See more the milling of authentic BruxZir Solid Zirconia. Let us know what you think! http://blog.bruxzir.com/2011/06/09/bruxzir-milling-system.aspx