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Ricardo, in retrospect, and 58 years on the bench you better love it like I do or it will eat your lunch...See more and then grab your dessert! I have been privy to conversations in the late 60's and early 70's about the possibility of being able to cut a crown from a solid block of ceramic and we knew that was never possible! Slept thru that one! It boggles my mind what is being done now and how it is being done. When I taught it for 7 years, I made sure I taught a lot of the 'older' stuff because there are times when ONLY the older techniques will save your bacon! It is how you handle a 'fumble' that will make the technician in you proud. good luck! — tagged Ricardo Bussey